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xiweiqing 2018-03-11

云里雾里，不知所云，你要翻译也不能这么翻译吧，谁会看啊

WAWI 2012-07-11
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兄弟，能解释一下吗？
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玉柴司机 2012-01-04

连贯翻译就好了，现在看不懂。。。。

铁甲-小帅 2012-01-04

不是什么好贴。看不懂。浪费时间。

1097466697 2012-01-03

我很惊讶地看到这个话题，如果这是由于我在过去几天公布的线程。 I would say you have misunderstood my incentive.我会说你误解了我的的激励。 

I didn't expose more information about my work before, since you doubt about this, I would like to open: I am not a sales man of China branded manufacture, I am a sales trainee working in Caterpillar Global Petroleum department (selling engine and generator to oil & gas industry) 2 years after graduate from college.我没有公开对我的工作的更多信息，因为您对这个疑问，我想打开：我不是一个中国品牌的制造销售的人，我销售卡特彼勒全球石油部（销售发动机的实习工作，发电机，以石油和天然气行业）从大学毕业后2年。 I became interested in Construction machine since 14 years old when I firstly saw the huge CAT truck in a mine site near my hometown and my brother worked in one of the CAT China dealers - Westrac ( you must know it) for 10 years.自14岁我成了施工机械感兴趣时，我首先看到巨大的CAT车在我的家乡和我的兄弟附近的矿场在一个中国的经销商猫工作 - 威斯特（你必须知道它）10年。 So I always try my best to know more about these fantastic machines.所以我总是尽我所能了解更多有关这些梦幻般的机器。 I have join this forum for 1 year and haven't post or participated any thread, then one day I saw the Iron horse's “Jonyang 230e Excavator”, I became a little bit excited because our forum members begin to use or begin to know about China branded machine, then I post a thread “Some basic information about Excavator in China” in the “Excavator” forum.我有参加本次论坛为1年，并没有张贴或参加任何线程，然后有一天，我看到了铁马的“Jonyang 230E挖掘机”，我变得有点激动，因为我们的论坛成员开始使用或开始了解中国品牌机的话，我后一个线程“一些关于挖掘机的基本信息”中的“挖掘机”论坛在中国。 My purpose is to introduce some reality situation about excavator in China to other members without any advertise motivation for any brand.我的目的是介绍一下在中国的挖掘机，任何品牌广告的动机没有任何其他成员的一些现实情况。 As for the pictures of china branded machine, I thought our members all know the famous brand but maybe never see what china branded machine look like, so I pick some China branded machine on job site to share.至于中国品牌机的图片，我想我们大家都知道的著名品牌，但也许永远也看不到什么中国品牌机的外观一样，所以我选择了一些中国品牌机作业现场分享。 I am fully responsible for what I said before, if you still have other questions about my “advertisement thread” let's discuss further.我完全负责，我以前说过，如果你还有关于我的“广告线程”，让我们进一步讨论的其他问题。这值得怀疑，我evern打算购买一台挖掘机，但我有一个反铲挖土机，推土机和倾卸汽车。 All for my land and personal use.我的土地和个人使用。 That said, finding the best price for what will do the job for me was a big part in what I bought.这就是说，寻找最好的价格为什么会为我做的工作是在我买的很大一部分。 None of it is chinese, but that wasn't a reason not to buy it either.没有它是中国人，但是这不是一个理由不买它。 If I came across a chinese dozer in my searches that I felt would do the job and I had the support to buy parts for it, I would have been very interested in it.如果我碰到中国推土机在我的搜索，我觉得会做的工作和我的支持，购买部分来的，我会很感兴趣。 

It wasn't too long ago that Japan was the country the put out cheap cars and equipment, or at least that's what people used to say in the early 70's.这不是很久以前，日本全国推出廉价车和设备，或至少这就是人们说，在70年代初的。 Then in the 80's korea took over at the cheaply built cars.然后在80年代的韩国廉价制造的汽车。 Now it's inda and china.现在它的INDA和中国。 Both have the ability to build better and build it cheaper, so as a consumer, it's very interesting to me to read about the various brands.双方有能力来建立更好的建立更便宜，因此作为一个消费者，它非常有趣，我阅读有关的各种品牌。 

Just imagine if that chinese excavator makes it here, opens up shop and sells the same sized equipment for $100,000 less then the competition!!!!试想一下，如果中国的挖掘机，开辟了店，售价为10万美元，与同规格设备不足的竞争！！！ Then add dealer support with parts on hand.然后添加与手头上的部分经销商支持。 They will make a killing and the other brands will have to seriously rethink their prices, which are way too expensive anyway.他们会屠杀和其他品牌将不得不认真重新思考他们的价格，这实在是太昂贵反正。 

It's just a matter of time until china and india get thier stuff together and improve on quality.这只是一个时间的问题，直到中国和印度得到他们的东西在一起，提高质量。 Japan and Korea did it, so it's not impossible.日本和韩国没有，所以这不是不可能的。 Then it will be some other country or region of the world.然后，这将是世界其他一些国家或地区。 Africa?非洲？ South America?南美？ both have the resource to do this if they can get their coruption under control and take advantage of their labor pool.都做到这一点的资源，如果他们能得到他们所控制的coruption，充分利用他们的劳动池。 

Eddie埃迪  来自得克萨斯州，我肯定会想念得克萨斯州的东松树和土地景观肯定漂亮，但回正题，在手。 Many of the known reliable manufactures have out priced themselves and they are partly foreign made with parts sent worldwide for assembly.许多已知的可靠的生产价格纷纷走出自己和部分外国送往大会全球部分。 Yet a unit from China or India might be as good in many areas and not so in others.然而，从中国或印度的单位可能会在许多领域和在其他国家并非如此。 But if the product support was good and the machine up making money I could see and I too might consider a foreign brand.但如果产品支持好了赚钱机器，我可以看到，我也可以考虑国外品牌。 In the US or where I live now your equipment on site tells about your ethic of work.在美国，我现在的生活，您的现场设备告诉你的工作热情。 So hang your company name on equipment and not some rental company is what I'm referring too.因此，设备挂在您的公司名称，而不是一些出租公司就是我指太。 So it is easier to get caught up in names to keep business.所以很容易陷入名称中保持业务。 It may be shallow logic but it has worked for a long time.这可能是浅层的逻辑，但它有很长一段时间的工作。 
I ran a 444E for a while and we bent the bucket removing a stump one day.我跑了，而444E和弯曲桶中取出一个树桩有一天。 My boss said had we had a CAT this would of never happened.我的老板说了，我们有一个会从来没有发生过的猫。 Choice of metals was the cause for the failure of the bucket.金属的选择是斗失败的原因。 The deere imo had better creature comforts than the CAT and it was less work to operate.迪尔海事组织更好的物质享受，比“禁止酷刑公约”和它的工作越少，操作。 but the CAT had some motor with down deep torque.但猫有一些深长扭矩电机。 
These days somethings aren't what they seem an we have to go out and put ourselves out in the middle and find what works for us best.这些天出头，他们似乎是一个我们必须走出去，把自己在中间，并找到为我们工作的最好。 That is not just for equipment but for everything we by as a consumer.这仅仅是我们所有的设备，但不被作为一个消费者。 埃迪 - 沃克说，上面是相当多，我在想什么。 

I too am old enough to remember when the label "made in Japan" was a synonym for "junk".我也是老得足以记得当“日本制造”的标签是“**”的代名词。 These days the debate is not whether Japanese goods are junk or not, but whether they're that much better than everybody else's or not.这些天的辩论是不是日货是否是**或没有，但是否他们的，远高于其他人的或不。 I think consumers have voted that they are in a lot of cases.我觉得消费者都投了赞成票，他们在很多情况下是。 

The point hitch made in the other thread about Chinese goods in the 10 or more years ahead of us is spot on as well.点顺利在其他线程对中国商品的摆在我们面前的是在10年或以上，以及现货。 

As for Aussie Nick's points, there may be some truth to them, but they need to be considered in a global sense.至于澳元尼克的点，有可能是一些其中的道理，但他们需要在一个全球性的的意义上考虑。 

People never seem to grasp that the world today is different than it was fifty years ago.人们似乎从来没有把握，当今世界是不同的，比50年前。 Today, businesses, and their employees, are not just competing locally, but with everyone, everywhere, world wide.今天，企业和其员工，不只是竞争在本地，但与每个人，无处不在，世界各地。 I've long said that if they could figure out how to dig holes over there, pack them into 40 foot shipping containers and send them over here, we'd all be out of our jobs too.我早就说过，如果他们能搞清楚如何挖孔那边，包入40英尺的集装箱，并送他们在这里，我们就全部是我们的工作也。 

We, in the industrialized nations, have long had a higher standard of living than those in the "developing nations".我们，在工业化国家，早已有一个更高的生活水平比在“发展中国家”。 That's given us the luxury of having factories that pollute minimally, workers that are well paid, as opposed to "slave wages", and clean, safe workplaces, as opposed to sweatshops.这给我们奢侈的微创污染的工厂，以及支付，而不是“奴隶工资”，干净，安全的工作场所，如反对血汗工厂的工人。 Go back in time a hundred years, and you'd find all of that right here in America, and I suspect Europe and probably Australia too.回到百年时间，你会发现，在美国所有的权利在这里，我怀疑欧洲，并可能在澳大利亚太。 People put up with it, because it still gave them a higher standard of living than they had back on the farm.人们把它，因为它仍然给了他们一个更高的标准比他们在农场的生活。 They were happy to have us export our sweatshops to them.他们很高兴，我们出口我们的血汗工厂。 Why are we now surprised that theyre even happier to have our good jobs?为什么我们现在惊讶吗更有更高兴有良好的就业机会呢？ 

People in the developing nations are doing the same thing now that our grandfathers did--putting up with it, because it still beats the hell out of life on the farms in that part of the world.在发展中国家的人在做同样的事情，现在我们的祖父 - 把它，因为它仍然生活节奏的地狱就在这世界的一部分的农场。 Proudly spending today building the dilapidated housing of the 22nd century....今天自豪地消费，建设22世纪的破旧房屋.... 


Read the Forum Rules Here 在这里阅读论坛规则 铁马。 
What the hell does colour have to do with it.颜色有什么是地狱，用它做。 White man in Africa speaking.白人在非洲来讲。 What next, refusing to buy a deere ADT 'coz its made in Africa by Africans?下一步，拒绝购买一个迪尔ADT'COZ其在非洲，由非洲人？ 

I do agree with you on a few points, but refusing to buy an excavata 'coz its made in a certain country is not what us earthmover freaks are about.我同意你的几个点，但拒绝购买一个excavata COZ在某一个国家是不是我们的推土机怪胎约。 We love equipment wherever it comes from.我们的爱来自所有的设备。 

And since when is Australia concerned about pollution, its not like you signed anything official in Brazil or something drawn up by the UN.因为是澳大利亚时，有关污染问题，它不喜欢你签署任何正式在巴西或由联合国制定的东西。 

And yes Eddie, we do have a large labour pool.是埃迪，我们有大量的劳动力资源。 我想，我的手小了，但已在一个社会里种族最小的一提的是狡猾的，我想我不应该来了炽烈的全枪。 I also did not know that Aussie has signed the Kyoto protocol, what with slow deliveration of news about international standards and what not.我也没有不知道，澳大利亚签署了“京都议定书”，与有关国际标准的消息，什么不能慢deliveration什么。 Sorry.对不起。 

Africa is a poor continent, with corrupt money grabbing governments that spend every last cent on war instead of electricity (cough, cough, look at Zim, not that we aren't far behind) to uplift the population out of poverty where they still rely heavily on burning wood and paraffin, coal to heat and cook for themselves.非洲是一个贫穷的大陆，与腐败的钱，每一个最后一分钱花在战争上，而不是电（咳，咳，看在以星，并不是说我们也不甘落后）隆起贫困人口，他们仍然依靠抢夺政府大量燃烧木材和石蜡，煤热，并为自己做饭。 All though South Africa may not be doing much, we certainly are trying our damn best.南非所有虽然可能不是做多，当然，我们正在尝试我们的该死的最佳。 

We may not use a lot of Chinese equipment, but we do use it.我们可能无法使用了大量中国制造的设备，但我们不使用它。 It is becoming quite popular.它变得很流行。

1097466697 2012-01-03

方面，澳元尼克 
Hi Aussie Nick喜澳元尼克 

I am very surprised to see this topic and if this is due to my thread posted in the past few days.我很惊讶地看到这个话题，如果这是由于我在过去几天公布的线程。 I would say you have misunderstood my incentive.我会说你误解了我的的激励。 

I didn't expose more information about my work before, since you doubt about this, I would like to open: I am not a sales man of China branded manufacture, I am a sales trainee working in Caterpillar Global Petroleum department (selling engine and generator to oil & gas industry) 2 years after graduate from college.我没有公开对我的工作的更多信息，因为您对这个疑问，我想打开：我不是一个中国品牌的制造销售的人，我销售卡特彼勒全球石油部（销售发动机的实习工作，发电机，以石油和天然气行业）从大学毕业后2年。 I became interested in Construction machine since 14 years old when I firstly saw the huge CAT truck in a mine site near my hometown and my brother worked in one of the CAT China dealers - Westrac ( you must know it) for 10 years.自14岁我成了施工机械感兴趣时，我首先看到巨大的CAT车在我的家乡和我的兄弟附近的矿场在一个中国的经销商猫工作 - 威斯特（你必须知道它）10年。 So I always try my best to know more about these fantastic machines.所以我总是尽我所能了解更多有关这些梦幻般的机器。 I have join this forum for 1 year and haven't post or participated any thread, then one day I saw the Iron horse's “Jonyang 230e Excavator”, I became a little bit excited because our forum members begin to use or begin to know about China branded machine, then I post a thread “Some basic information about Excavator in China” in the “Excavator” forum.我有参加本次论坛为1年，并没有张贴或参加任何线程，然后有一天，我看到了铁马的“Jonyang 230E挖掘机”，我变得有点激动，因为我们的论坛成员开始使用或开始了解中国品牌机的话，我后一个线程“一些关于挖掘机的基本信息”中的“挖掘机”论坛在中国。 My purpose is to introduce some reality situation about excavator in China to other members without any advertise motivation for any brand.我的目的是介绍一下在中国的挖掘机，任何品牌广告的动机没有任何其他成员的一些现实情况。 As for the pictures of china branded machine, I thought our members all know the famous brand but maybe never see what china branded machine look like, so I pick some China branded machine on job site to share.至于中国品牌机的图片，我想我们大家都知道的著名品牌，但也许永远也看不到什么中国品牌机的外观一样，所以我选择了一些中国品牌机作业现场分享。 I am fully responsible for what I said before, if you still have other questions about my “advertisement thread” let's discuss further.我完全负责，我以前说过，如果你还有关于我的“广告线程”，让我们进一步讨论的其他问题。  .

1097466697 2012-01-03

澳大利亚人尼克， 
B,C and D are my thoughts but you said them first. B，C和D是我的想法，但你说他们的第一。 I'm neither here nor there on the subject.关于这个问题，我不伦不类。 I've seen a few peddlers come and go here and it is just that.我见过几个小贩这里来来去去，就是这样。 I'm not sure if this guy is just wanting to get ideas and become a regular poster or be a poser????我不知道如果这家伙只是想了解，并成为一项经常性的海报或者是波塞尔？？ I'm a grain of salt about the whole idear.我一粒盐对整个idear。 I don't run equipment any more but so desire to learn more since I'm in system engineering.我不运行任何设备，但渴望了解更多，因为我很系统工程。 My heart is into trucks and equipment and how they have evolved in the last 25 years is a huge success of the engineers who have developed this stuff.我的心脏是卡车和设备的工程师开发这个东西是一个巨大的成功，以及他们如何在过去25年来的演变。 
Fair trade is a big deal down under isn't it?公平贸易是一个大问题，下下来是不是？ can't sweat shop the peps when everyone gets a piece of the pie.不能血汗工厂的政界人士，当每个人都分一杯羹。 
My biggest problem with China and India right now is the countries who have hired them for the use of cheap labor have exploited those counties and that is wrong.我与中国和印度最大的问题，现在已聘请他们为使用廉价劳动力的国家利用这些县，这是错误的。 But the leaders of those two countries are equal in blame for the money that they receive for this very exploitation.但是，这两个国家的领导人都在怪的钱，他们收到这个剥削的平等。 I can't blame them but the pollution and lax safety is very unsatisfactory.我不能责怪他们，但污染和松懈的安全是非常不理想。

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